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Posted: Sat Dec 15th, 2007 11:45 pm |
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I think that if they make the voting age younger in the US, they should base it on grades - to see how responsible the young adult is. & If they have a certain GPA - they can be allowed to vote - if not, they can't.
but personally i think 18 is just fine.
i'm just saying - if they change it.
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Posted: Tue Jan 1st, 2008 09:42 pm |
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| i believe that 18-25 don't vote as much they should anyways. And until that happens nothing can be done for the younger children of the country. I believe that it shouldn't be changed because I don't believe that it would help anything and I don't believe that many would vote.
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Posted: Tue Jan 1st, 2008 10:40 pm |
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I understand where you are coming from on this matter. The problem here is that grades are not a good indication of voting ability. For example, I was bored in school as a high school student, so I spent my time skipping school or acting out in class. My grades suffered as a result.
A policy based on GPA's would disenfranchise certain qualified voters while allowing other unqualified voters to engage in the process. A policy like this would disenfranchis liberal and radical left voters more than conservative and radical right voters as well. This would make the rules for voting requirements more political than they already are.
Allowing younger people to vote should be base on one criteria - taxation. If any person is putting money into helping the state operate in the form of direct taxation, they should be given the right to vote, regardless of age.
its hayle wrote: I think that if they make the voting age younger in the US, they should base it on grades - to see how responsible the young adult is. & If they have a certain GPA - they can be allowed to vote - if not, they can't.
but personally i think 18 is just fine.
i'm just saying - if they change it
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Posted: Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 02:12 pm |
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First off, I'd like to say that kids are likely to be heavily influenced by their parents and surrounding adults. Just adding more uncircumstantial votes to the democracy of America. Secondly, most kids are not going to be smart about it. The kids that would are unfortunately the exception and not the many.
But without pointless voting, the American people feel uninvolved with their government so let's lower the voting age. Who cares how badly they vote, they will be more loyal to their country.
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Posted: Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 08:24 pm |
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btphone54 wrote: First off, I'd like to say that kids are likely to be heavily influenced by their parents and surrounding adults....Who cares how badly they vote, they will be more loyal to their country.
I believe that effective governance takes priority over loyalty. The goal here is not to make sheep that will just conform to the social system and allow unproductive and ill-founded practices take place, the goal of a younger voting population needs to be a better-represented public in terms of varying ideas and opinions.
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Posted: Tue Jan 22nd, 2008 09:53 pm |
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To change the voting age would have effect upon all the other aspects of our law in relation to children. 18 is currently the age at which one is considered an adult, and there are various laws corresponding with this. To lower the voting age would undermine our entire law system, as voting directly effects our government and soceity, and therefore our laws.
Not only this but influence also plays a huge part in the life of a child. To lower the voting age would be to increase the liklihood of influence on a person's voting habits - and we do not want to encourage a lazy voting population.
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Posted: Thu Jan 24th, 2008 06:18 am |
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so law in the US is undermined because drinking age is 21 and voting age is 18?
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Posted: Sun Feb 3rd, 2008 09:54 pm |
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no in fact it should be raised, most young pople who vote dont know enough about the candidates they vote for.
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Posted: Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 01:22 am |
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| Yes it should be lowered. i mean over half of the people voting, the decission isn't going to effect! We "kids" are able to think for ourselves, we know what we want and need. WE UNDERSTAND!!!!!! WE WANT THE RIGHT TO VOTE!!!!
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Posted: Thu Nov 27th, 2008 09:02 am |
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You know what? i couldn't agree more with you. People that are 18 think they are already adults so then they drink, smoke and do stuff in bed that they shouldn't do so much that in less than 10 years their lifes get ruined. But when you're 21 most people are mature enough to know what they are doing.
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Posted: Thu Nov 27th, 2008 09:06 am |
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I agree so much with you because when you are to young and you think you are an adult you might go off and get drunk and do other stuff in bed. So i think it should be 21.
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Posted: Thu Nov 27th, 2008 09:06 am |
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hi freind
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Posted: Thu Feb 26th, 2009 09:53 pm |
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No, because a number of young people I know under the age of 18 have not decided who to vote for or just don't even want to vote. I think voting helps a person become more a more mature adult and you normally gain the full rights of adult control weather it be drink in a bar or gamble or leave home and have a family. There aren't many people I've met under 18 who are interested in politics and buy newspapers and totally read them not just the sport or cartoon section.
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Posted: Sat Mar 28th, 2009 10:53 pm |
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Raise it if anything.
I understand that if a 16 year old girl has to pay taxes then she should have more rights. Let me say that a little different. I understand that she feels she should have the same responsibilities as adults since she has to pay taxes like adults. However, as she will learn as she grows older, her views will change and mature. Voting is a heavy responsibility that requires more then 90% of adult voters are even willing to give. It is not something done on the fly. It takes heavy research and faith to put your vote in to another person.
So, 16 we drive, 18 we vote, and 21 we totally destroy what is left of our brain cells. Not perfect but it works okay for now. A 16 year old is just starting to get a glimpse at what is to come, but not enough to merit experience towards voting. Think about high school students in general. Lower the age. Now watch. You will be able to buy drugs at 7 Eleven, drink and drive, and so on.
Sure, there are high school teens out there with a good head on their shoulders, but certainly not enough to make a positive impact on the way our country is ran. At least not in my backwoods county. Holding the smart teens back from voting a few years makes them that much more intelligent when it comes time for them to vote.
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Posted: Tue Apr 7th, 2009 03:17 pm |
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Why are people all of a sudden an adult at 18? Are we still a child at 17 and a half?
I think there should be no age limit to voting, but you must give a reason for why you are voting.
Any reason. But valid. Some pople voted for Obama because he is black, and some voted because he isn't. If someone gives a reason as such, they are not allowed to vote.
We should base what people are suppose to know by an age.
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Posted: Tue Apr 7th, 2009 03:34 pm |
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If you have to give reason to why you are voting, then you have to give information on who you are voting for and your feelings towards your decision. This is not freedom, is it?
If you watch the behavior of men and women that turn 18, they still are not adults. They have a few more rights, but still limited. For safe reasons I might add. When you turn 21 you have even more rights, but you are still victim to age. Car insurance still sees you as a child and many lending agencies.
This subject isn't exactly about how OLD you have to be, but how EXPERIENCED you have to be. 18 is even pushing it. I believe a person should have a few years in the adult world before they are given the chance to make statements on the adult world.
So is this about expressing your true feelings of politics, or just anger because you have a few more years before you get out on your own?
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Posted: Wed Aug 19th, 2009 05:43 pm |
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The car insurance still sees you as a child and many lending agencies? what is it?
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Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2009 03:55 am |
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With the question being asked many would say "no", the voting age should not be lowered, but many people whom I am close friends with say "YES!" With education today many students in high school are becoming more intelligent by the minute. The curriculum in schools is much more advanced than in the 1900's. Although many kids have no clue what is going on in this world , due to the fact they are playing video games and texting, there are a remote few who are able to understand the political standpoints of each party. At 18 years old I would hope that the children would have enough sense to start to wonder why the world is the way it is. In the past election with our current president Barack Obama and senator John McCain the margain that won the actual election for Obama was in the 18-25 age group. Throughout my life I have been told by my mother that the Republicans are conservative and Democrats are for the poeple, at age 17 I started making up my own interpretations on how each party is. So I am a prime example that children now are able to make their own decisions. I don't believe the voting age should be lowered, but raised to 21 year old. By then the young adults should be able to make a decision whether something is wrong or right.
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Posted: Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 02:11 am |
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| Well i think they should increase the age. First of all 13-17 are considered teens, but everyone knows that 18 and 19 are also still teenage ages. I see like this: If it's a double digit number that starts with a 1 it's a teen. I would probably raise it to 21: The legal age to smoke, drink, and drive (but not at the same time, of course). If they aren't at legal age to do those things then, no, they aren't at the correct age to vote. To be considered an adult you should be able to do whatever you want, for instance: at the age of 18 you can't drink, at the age of 16 you can't smoke, drive, or drink (you can only get you r permit), but at the age of 21 you can smoke, drink, and drive. And that is an adult. If you agree please reply. Reply even if you don't agree, but I know this is the correct age. Last edited on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 02:23 am by the_kool_debater
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Posted: Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 02:12 pm |
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It's a big NO because there're still many young people who don't care much about the voting itself and they're not sure what they picked. They just chose the one that they like without much consideration. I felt so.
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