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Posted: Fri Jul 10th, 2009 02:24 pm |
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live2debate wrote: We shouldn't give up eating animals. They were put on this earth for us to eat. And thats that.
Great debating there. I assume that you have a religious bias because of the statement "They were put on this earth for us to eat".
It might be a good idea to open up a new debate channel on christianity and vegetarianism, but if you would like to keep it to this channel, I'll be quite happy to counter this statement...oh please let me counter this statement.
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Posted: Fri Jul 10th, 2009 02:36 pm |
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gangstamike wrote: So horribly delicious.
I don't care what anybody elses diet is, but i would never be a vegatarian. I love food like steaks, burgers, jerky. For those of you who preach about how bad the effects of cows are on the environment, what about hunting for animals? Wild animals are going to be responsible for some greenhouse gases wether we eat meat or not.
If there were as many wild animals on the planet as there are cows to feed humans, this statement would be semi-plausible, but there aren't nearly as many. The environmental impact of feeding livestock is not only to do with the amount of greenhouse gases, but the deforestation done in order to feed the miriad of them.
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Posted: Fri Jul 10th, 2009 02:39 pm |
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lust4blood wrote: it is the choice of the person whether or not they should eat animal meat or not and that is the way it should stay
But does the animal get a say in the matter?
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Posted: Fri Jul 10th, 2009 03:23 pm |
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NikAngelo1 wrote: Utter BS. Your attitude. Curb it. Now on to your argument:
The ice age? You're off by about 2 million years. Meat was crucial for human evolution, especially concerning the brain.
I read a sunopsis of "The China Theory." This only applies if you have a predisposition to diseases. Of course cholesteral increases these chances (slightly) and of course meat with its higher fat content, would mean more cholesteral. That book is vegetarian propaganda.
Animals can defend themselves. We just have better ways to kill them than they can defend against.
I don't agure that you are extremely healthy. How is your brain doing...?
I eat animals because they taste good. Yum. Yum. YUM.
Why don't you? Judging by your angry comment, it must be besides the slight health issues.
Counter - utter BS. YOUR attitude...curb it, it's way more aggressive than jared's
If meat is so revolutionary in mental development; crocodiles and sharks would be geniuses.
Just because you have the ability to kill something doesn't mean you should.
I would suggest that, before you start asking how jared's brain is doing, that you make sure your spelling in your response is correct.
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Posted: Sat Jul 11th, 2009 08:23 am |
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True, animals are needed and wanted throughout today's society although, in order for humans to survive we NEED meat.
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Posted: Sat Jul 11th, 2009 09:22 am |
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Bubblegum wrote: True, animals are needed and wanted throughout today's society although, in order for humans to survive we NEED meat.
You need to justify your statement. Stating that we NEED meat without stating the facts as to why we need it is not going to convince people of your standpoint, in a debate.
As it happens, people have managed to go their entire lives without ever touching meat to their lips. I'll point to one famous family of Vegans that most people tend to know about, the Phoenix family (who gave us such actors as Joaquin, River and Summer).
Every nutritional element you find in meat, is found in fruits and vegetables (and in sufficient quantities). The only vitamin that fruits and vegetables lack, is vitamin B12. The vitamin is not present in modern society because we wash our food thoroughly and because of pesticides. But it can be supplemented, in fact you might be supplementing it without realising it. Pick up a box of any Kellog's cereal and you'll see that the vitamin has been included in it, this is just one amongst many products where B12 has been supplemented.
Look up the Hunza tribe of the himalayas (the longest living people in the world). They are also vegetarian their entire lives.
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Posted: Sun Jul 19th, 2009 11:48 pm |
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| In response to what Devan.C said - That's a great plan to suit your beliefs, but what if eating meat directly violates someone's ethics? For example, if someone thought beating small children was wrong, would you suggest that they merely quietly look on as someone else does it and refrain from doing it themselves, or stand up against the beater? If someone thinks eating meat is wrong, you suggest that they merely quietly look on as someone else does it. Last edited on Sun Jul 19th, 2009 11:52 pm by sagerox
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Posted: Mon Jul 20th, 2009 03:21 am |
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These three myths seem to come up quite often...
MYTH #1 Humans need meat to be healthy.
The majority of vegetarians are healthy without eating meat.
MYTH #2 All animals eat other animals, why shouldn't humans?
Wild animalss hunt enough to feed themselves : they are part of a delicate ecosystem. When humans go in, they can easily overhunt until animals are extinct and destroy an ecosystem. Also, keeping cows and pigs in barns isn't hunting.
MYTH #3 They were put here for us to eat.
To EVERYONE who said animals are here for humans to eat... aside from the gross inethical, arrogant, disgusting connations this carries... how do you explain animals that are completely inedible to humans, like the poisonous cane toad? If 'God' put it on earth for us to eat, he must not like us very much... so we should rebel by becoming vegetarians 
Also... what about the sanctity of life, a major component of many, many religions and even most legislature? Is it ethical to take something else's life unneccasarily - because it is possible to live without meat - just for easy nutrition or pleasure? Is an animal's life worth nothing at all? What about a dog or a cat - have you been sad when a pet died? If you have, it's life had some value to you, therefore animal's lives must have value, therfore when you kill on e merely for pleasure you are wasting it!
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Posted: Fri Jul 24th, 2009 04:03 am |
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| I eat both so I don't care. LOL
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Posted: Sat Jul 25th, 2009 02:30 pm |
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i have many friends who are vegetirans, and what i noticed is that they all look quite pale - have you ever noticed that?
and regarding myself, i enjoy eating meat, i think human body needs meat to stay healthy and strong...
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Posted: Mon Jul 27th, 2009 09:16 am |
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Your friends need to get into the sun more often. Meat does not give you colour.
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Posted: Wed Jul 29th, 2009 10:44 pm |
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| It is human nature to eat meat, that is how the world works. If animals did not eat other animals, there would be far fewer species
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Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2009 01:32 pm |
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It could be argued that killing each other is human nature as well, therefore, go forth and kill your fellow human beings.
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Posted: Mon Aug 17th, 2009 11:35 am |
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i believe that we cannot easily change our tastes in food that easily BUT
even though we get this so-called nutrition from meat,it can harm our body
unlike that of vegetables. i do not propose that we eat all veggies but we can
eat fish. only meat from poultry etc. should not be eaten.
1. Some meats can transfer disease such as pork and chicken.
2. Everyone would be more fit.
3. Less and less life would be killed.
so therefore i do not force anyone i just lay out my reasons.
P.S. Im a meat eater too, I hate veggies
P.P.S pssst........... I m only 12.
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Posted: Sat Aug 29th, 2009 05:20 am |
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| True, i think it's in the natural order of things to have predators and prey. Animals follow their instincts, and they've got a lot of thing right (basically they haven't ruined the earth). However, humans have started to farm animals, raising them to be killed, and this is not in the natural order of things. i also think it's wrong to eat baby animals which haven't even had alife.
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Posted: Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 02:19 pm |
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| Honestly, human's population getting bigger and bigger each year and maybe it's not a bad idea (based on ecological balance) to press down the population a little bit. Although morally it won't be accepted because we still think that we're slightly different from animals.
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Posted: Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 02:21 pm |
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| my previous reply refer to tonk's answer.
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